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Re: OMGAY

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:19 pm

Aside that "nature's plan" is commonly used figuratively, planning in nature may very well be the same process as planning of humans, because the human act of planning may very well be overestimated: any idea too can be seen as experience pilling up to a structure that happens to not collapse while being in competition with others for attention, and this may be closer to truth than consciousness, or consciousness may be just an elaboration of this. Just as the structure of the brain dictates the manner of neurological pilling, environmental circumstances in nature dictate the manner of genetic pilling. So the impression of the human plan is an expression of nature's plan.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:10 pm

I'd say 11% is a wishfully high estimate. The science of gay is really intriguing IMO and to add my own worthless two cents, I'd love to end up doing something involved in it.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:09 pm

..Then go have sex with a guy?
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:43 pm

Zeuter wrote:..Then go have sex with a guy?


Well there's getting involved and then there's getting involved.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:24 pm

Hey, no need to be in a relationship for that.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:19 pm

Both of Zeuter's quotes typify the sort of mentality that is exactly what's wrong with the modern gay
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Mengde » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:04 pm

Because straight people never have random sex for the fun of it.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:22 pm

Mengde wrote:Because straight people never have random sex for the fun of it.


Straight people didn't invent Grindr.


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Re: OMGAY

Postby Mengde » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:30 pm

Christ.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:09 pm

unwichtig wrote:Both of Zeuter's quotes typify the sort of mentality that is exactly what's wrong with the modern gay


How so?
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:28 pm

Well to stereotype and generalize insultingly,
my biggest problem with my fellow homos (high school homos, by the way) is that they tend to be anti-intellectual and promiscuous as hell. It's like they think that academia and commitment are burdens that only straight guys would be stupid enough to bear.

And I was not trying to imply that straight people don't have random sex
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Re: OMGAY

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:58 pm

unwichtig wrote:my biggest problem with my fellow homos is that they tend to be anti-intellectual and promiscuous as hell.

Why is it that one always wished to trade one's own problems for that of others??
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:05 pm

unwichtig wrote:Well to stereotype and generalize insultingly,
my biggest problem with my fellow homos (high school homos, by the way) is that they tend to be anti-intellectual and promiscuous as hell. It's like they think that academia and commitment are burdens that only straight guys would be stupid enough to bear.

And I was not trying to imply that straight people don't have random sex


This is mostly because it's high school. College should offer you up a much better field to field and get feeled
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:05 pm

RageAgainstVoid wrote:
unwichtig wrote:my biggest problem with my fellow homos is that they tend to be anti-intellectual and promiscuous as hell.

Why is it that one always wished to trade one's own problems for that of others??


It's easier to say "I want what she's having" rather than do the necessary work to have that orgasm on your own.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:15 pm

unwichtig wrote:Well to stereotype and generalize insultingly,
my biggest problem with my fellow homos (high school homos, by the way) is that they tend to be anti-intellectual and promiscuous as hell. It's like they think that academia and commitment are burdens that only straight guys would be stupid enough to bear.


Accusing teenagers of being anti-intellectual and promiscuous is like accusing midgets of being short.

If anything, homosexuals are overrepresented in academia. Political science classes are more fabulous than any gay bar. Too bad CS guys are so ugly, nerdy and sweaty, or they'd all be wearing gold pants.

Yes, sexual commitment is a burden that only straight guys are stupid enough to bear - men don't bear children after you fuck them. I'm not saying that you should sleep around, but rather that there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:16 pm

Hush, there are mysteries not even the science of gay can solve.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:52 pm

There's nothing wrong with it, but it must be taken into account. It's why safe-sex is so important in the gay community. It's important for straights too, but dudes fuck around a lot, and you can abort a fetus but you can't lose herpes (not equating, just saying...)

More gay couples than straight couples condone some form of extra-relationship sexual activity, and I think that skews more towards gay men than lesbians, but I don't remember.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:07 pm

Yes, sexual commitment is a burden that only straight guys are stupid enough to bear - men don't bear children after you fuck them.


I can be as cynical and jaded as the rest of them, but that statement horrifies me.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:14 pm

unwichtig wrote:
Yes, sexual commitment is a burden that only straight guys are stupid enough to bear - men don't bear children after you fuck them.


I can be as cynical and jaded as the rest of them, but that statement horrifies me.


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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:16 pm

I do, at some point. I'm way too awesome not to contribute a human being that I raised to the world.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:30 pm

Exactly! But mostly I'd prefer to think of sexual commitment as a pleasant lifestyle, not a burden to bear...
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:21 pm

Then act on it. It is actually a philosophical choice when examined. If you like the convenience it brings, that's fine by me.

Nearly all male homosexuals go through a period where they have to intensely re-evaluate their sexual and social values. Usually they figure out that due to male nature, demanding sexual exclusivity seems completely arbitrary. Yes, sex can be used to bond in a relationship. So can cooking. Any activity can, in fact. The magical bonding experience between to people doesn't necessarily have to be sex, as religion and movies would like you to believe. Sex can also be used as a bonding mechanism between friends, rather than in a relationship.

Yes, sexual exclusivity does bring some benefits, mainly in the form of reduced risk of STDs. If you practise safe sex however, the risk is already minimal. Get a few regular fuckbuddies instead of a new guy every three days while keeping it safe and the risks are miniscule.

Saying that it is what is wrong with today's gays seems a little silly though. It's a simple rebellion against social norms that are not relevant to them, but which they are supposed to follow if they want to qualify as "decent people". You seem rather keen on enforcing these norms, why is this the case?

tl;dr gay guys don't care as long as they can fuck - just like normal guys, except men are not genetically predisposed to be clingy and be emotional about sex unless conditioned into it
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Kaz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:38 pm

Haha men only pretend not to be clingy and emotional about sex.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby TheRaven7 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:59 am

Fucking gaydars, how do they work?

(esp. in Europe. Everyone dresses fucking gay.)
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:51 am

Kaz wrote:Haha men only pretend not to be clingy and emotional about sex.


When conditioned into it by women. It's obvious to see what happens without these restraints -> Grindr.

Raven, the supposed gaydar works on more than clothing alone. Motoric patterns and voice are important facets too. That being sad, I can't say I have one. The tooth fairy in the big gender reassignment thread llama video is about as subtle as I can detect.
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