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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:11 pm

Cassiel wrote:
theboogleman wrote:Has anyone here read Malcolm Gladwells book Tipping Point?

That was the first thing that popped into my head too. The psychology of the Micronesian suicides was a lot different though.


To be fair many of these boys are hanging themselves. It could be for other reasons (like rope is hella easy to buy?) but there is that similarity in many of the suicides. Another couple broke just this week, and one was in Beverly Hills, although now it's looking a bit like a hoax. But gay kids have been offing themselves for being different since the 80s, that we know of. I don't know when teen suicide really took off, something to look into.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:39 pm

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/ ... 2010-10-20

But a history of other fear-inducing, physically painful experiences also places one at risk. Physical or sexual abuse as a child, combat exposure, and domestic abuse can also “prep” the individual for the physical pain associated with suicidal behavior. In addition, heritable variants of impulsivity, fearlessness and greater physical pain tolerance may help to explain why suicidality often runs in families. Van Orden and her coauthors also cite some intriguing evidence that habituation to pain is not so much generalized to just any old suicide method, but often specific to the particular method used to end one’s own life. For example, a study on suicides in the U.S. military branches found that guns were most frequently associated with Army personnel suicides, hanging and knots for those in the Navy, and falling and heights were more common for those in the Air Force.


I'm not quite sure how the rope thing is connected to these teenagers. Anyone have a hypothesis? Especially so in the states, where getting your hands on a gun (I initially typed guy, freudian slip much) is relatively easy.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Cassiel » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:50 pm

People do think about things like cleanup and having an open casket wake.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby GraveI » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:19 pm

Cassiel wrote:People do think about things like cleanup and having an open casket wake.


But what does this say about the reasoning for suicide then? One would think that someone who was truly desperate to escape this life wouldn't give a damn about what happened afterwards.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Cassiel » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:21 pm

Who said anything about being desperate?
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Kaz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:20 am

The only thing stopping me is the thought of the poor sucker who'd have to scrape me off the pavement. If I could push a button to vanish from existence with no one being the wiser, I would smash my fist into it.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Dr.Mellifluous » Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:31 pm

GraveI wrote:
Cassiel wrote:People do think about things like cleanup and having an open casket wake.


But what does this say about the reasoning for suicide then? One would think that someone who was truly desperate to escape this life wouldn't give a damn about what happened afterwards.


This reminds me of my first plan that I made when I was 12, which was to jump off a bridge near where I live. Gave no thought to how horrendous it might be for my parents to not have a body to bury (the bridge is over a relatively fast current in the Puget Sound).
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:22 pm

It's all lies. It only got worse for me.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby unwichtig » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:26 pm

:/ that makes me sad. It got unbelievably better for me.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:42 pm

It's just because I was in an excellent position to begin with. Now that the novelty is gone it's actually rather disappointing. The Netherlands might be a safe harbour for homosexuals, but the men here are so bad. It's almost as if they're worse than the average human being.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby theboogleman » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:44 pm

All men or just gay men?
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Ensabahnur » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:37 pm

All men are gay
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Cassiel » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:54 pm

Luckily I'm more of a dude than a man.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby TheRaven7 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:00 pm

So you live on a dude ranch?
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Cassiel » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:20 pm

I live on a rug. It really ties the room together.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Mengde » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:45 am

Zeuter wrote:It's just because I was in an excellent position to begin with. Now that the novelty is gone it's actually rather disappointing. The Netherlands might be a safe harbour for homosexuals, but the men here are so bad. It's almost as if they're worse than the average human being.


If you want to drop a ton of money on flying out to the States I have a couch you can forever tarnish with one of the many awesome gay dudes I know here at CMU. =D
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Zeuter » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:36 am

In Penn? I might just be going there this summer, visiting friends. I'll be at the other end of the state, though.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby TheRaven7 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:24 am

Philly Eagle fans are into watersports.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby Mengde » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:09 am

Zeuter wrote:In Penn? I might just be going there this summer, visiting friends. I'll be at the other end of the state, though.


Boooo other end of the state suuuucks.
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Re: OMGAY

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Re: OMGAY

Postby Cassiel » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:07 pm

Teenage mutant ninja homos? Sign me up.
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Re: OMGAY

Postby TheRaven7 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:09 pm

Edit: didn't notice the date
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Re: OMGAY

Postby WatermelonMan » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:22 pm

TheRaven7 wrote:Propositioning someone was grounds for them to beat you up? Police logic was so twisted, and they were never called out on it.


FTFY

That article was from 1973. SF police have changed a lot since then.
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Re: OMGAY

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