Dr.Mellifluous wrote:some world-altering event.
Kaz wrote:There's nothing defensible about Israel's constant use of disproportionate force and complete disregard for civilian casualties. They're basically waging the neocons' war on brown people by proxy.
Half + Seven wrote:shit
Half + Seven wrote:Answer this question. How much is enough? When are they allowed to take action? How many rockets? Or how many civilians? You must realize the rockets weren't going to stop. Follow that train of thought to it's logical end.
Kaz wrote:Yes jester, you would get a gun and go kill him. Not bomb the entire city block because they "support him" since they did nothing to stop him for you. Also nevermind you've been aggressively "colonizing" his yard and bulldozing his shed. You get it.
As long as Israel keeps sabre-rattling and making no effort to use appropriate amounts of retaliatory force, I'll make no effort giving them the benefit of the doubt. The reason they get away with it is they have unlimited and unconditional support from the US. If they actually had to, you know, pay for their toys and face consequences for their warmongering other than bad press, they could very well behave more reasonably!
Your entire fucking post is one huge equivalency fallacy. Oh no!! Some palestinians hiding among the populace also did some bad things, this makes completely annihilating infrastructure and entire city blocks justifiable to my uncritical mind!! Get out.
You seem to misinterpret my point, maybe I wasn't clear. The point isn't to stop the rockets, I've already stated what I think would do that and why I think it's highly unlikely to happen anytime soon. The point is to have Kaz find his own personal breaking point at which retaliation of this magnitude is justified. And then to realize that this point would be reached eventually and the outcome would happen anyway.Yes, please follow that train of thought to it's logical end.
Are the rockets going to stop now?
Jester wrote:I dont give a fuck what one country does to another in time of war, because its goddamn war. Hamas acts like they are fighting a guerilla war and hide within the civilian population that supports it.
Half + Seven wrote:You seem to misinterpret my point, maybe I wasn't clear. The point isn't to stop the rockets, I've already stated what I think would do that and why I think it's highly unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Short of one side disappearing I doubt there will ever be peace in the region.
If Israel wanted to assassinate the the responsible terrorists they could have done so mostly without casualties.
However they decided to randomly kill some civilians while they were at it.
That is not only pretty bad from a humanitarian point of view, but it also fails to solve the actual problem while at the same time it makes a peaceful solution impossible.
I'm quite certain people dont disappear magically. So since that isnt going to happen, someone would have to help.
Seriously, is that your preferred way to solve the situation?
Dr.Willy wrote:Seriously, is that your preferred way to solve the situation?
That's your solution? Even you must see your own double standard. You expect the Israelis to act like god damn saints. The Palestinians can't do something as simple as honoring a ceasefire. Some how you deem that worthy of more diplomacy.Kaz wrote:What should be used instead are more reasonable, measured usages of force and a lot more diplomacy. Of course they won't do it because, in the tiny reptilian brains of conservatives, that would be "weakness".
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