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Postby RageAgainstVoid » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:40 pm

I've been hanging out from time to time over at Pixel Joint. It is a good place with good people, and over time they have grown on me personally. If you are interested in Pixel Art, this is the definite GoTo place.

As you would expect though, my relationship with people even there is at times "difficult", to say the least. There have been debates on this and that sometimes, and even though I made an effort to be considerate and calm, things are emotionally complicated. =) It is known I am from here, and my way of presence here doesn't make exactly a sane impression either, you see. I wanted to make some new friends and exchange some thoughts, but I'm still not exactly sure I brought more honor or dismay. ;p

You might be interested in some of the discussion. Just now there was quite some hooblahoo again, or whatever, I'm still confused at what just happened despite my best effort. The pixel art in question is at the top of the page, the discussion begins at the bottum. I believe it's a good read anyway, kind of exemplary for the usual way of discourse on such issues, and some food for thought. May you make up your own mind on the issue. I'm not intend on persuing that much further over there though, I think the value in it has been exhausted by now, maybe you have some more thoughts on it here, on why she's right or I'm wrong. =)

Another discussion on a loosely familiar issue I had here, and might be an interesting contrast to my own words as well (the pixel art in question is no longer viewable though).
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Zeuter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:31 am

I can't believe you're linking us to you having an online conversation about a butt.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:55 am

That shows you how narcissistic I really am. Besides sexist.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:54 pm

But regardless of any one debate, this mostly is about PixelJoint as a place full of talent and enjoyable people, even the ones I had a disagreement with, and especially the ones that made fun of and with me. It's about what this might mean for "ToB" and our people. I thought eventually I'd like ToB to relate to PixelJoint in a similar manner ToB related to wc3campaigns in the past. I don't know yet how that works out exactly, but we have a couple capable guys here interested in development, and they have talent to match it for sure, and that's an understatement. Just mentioning it for now, maybe just to have something mentioned, I don't know... we seem altogether a bit preoccupied as of now.


"Dat ass"-debate linked earlier I mention for another reason too: the way I "condoned sexism" in there with the idea of limited responsibility as described, also puts a new light on many of our own debates in the past, you know, whatever other trivial shit I've been overtly passionate about. I've been thinking on this for a lot longer now, but saw no good opportunity for a post on it, so I picked that one up. That is to say, these debates were pretty good for insight on problematic issues, just that it's not to say it's damning people for keeping their lives somewhat managable and enjoyable aside absolute consequence on every little step.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Turkey_Slayer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:20 pm

dear RAV. check your privilege

Jesus, that's one thing I never thought I would read.

RageAgainstVoid wrote:ToB related to wc3campaigns in the past.

I believe that had more to do with the B&B crew than ToB itself.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:27 pm

Turkey_Slayer wrote:
dear RAV. check your privilege

Jesus, that's one thing I never thought I would read.

Yeah, that cracked me up real good too, for every extreme of my existence. :lol:

But hey, check out some of her work, it's damn great. That is really how you change the world, if anyhow, creating a fact of your own, rather than run-of-the-mill talking points on another's.

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RageAgainstVoid wrote:ToB related to wc3campaigns in the past.

I believe that had more to do with the B&B crew than ToB itself.

There was certainly a complexity of involvements, but it's fair to say ToB had, to mutual benefit.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Zeuter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:32 pm

SJWs are misguided idiots with anxiety issues, they cannot be reasoned with. The social justice movement on the internet is a horrible echo chamber, is far more toxic and deals more harm than 4pedos could ever hope to. Stay away from those people.
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Re: Pixel Joint

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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Cassiel » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:25 pm

Zeuter wrote:SJWs are misguided idiots with anxiety issues, they cannot be reasoned with. The social justice movement on the internet is a horrible echo chamber, is far more toxic and deals more harm than 4pedos could ever hope to. Stay away from those people.

So much wisdom in so few words. Amen.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:13 am

:lol:

I shall heed the advice. If only people this volatile and irrate could stay away from me or what I like, too... The creepiest part was when she fished for choice quotes in my virtual life.

:lol:

You remind me that I'm becoming too soft. I'm in the mood for some controversy, so I can hardly resist to poke some more fun at this, "calling it as I see it" like her, but which I probably am not "priviliged" enough to do over there.

:lol:

Of course, the only reason someone would question her statement is because the "boys" want to protect their "club", it can't be because it is questionable -- impossible! for that she is too educated on feminist literature!

:lol:

I especially like that argumentational mixed message trick, that's supposed to look considerate, but really is hysterical: choose words that clearly malign more or less sublimal, but then paradoxically say that you "don't shame" -- you *clarify* that, so it's *true*, even though you don't reconsider your earlier statement. Thus in the end I "was the only one bringing up shame", when basically paraphrasing what's for real. But you better deny my "semantic debate" that would unmask your semantic ploy. That said, at least the artist "should be aware" that his work is in a certain "tradition". Why should he be aware any more than on any else? Oh right, because there is something wrong and dangerous about it after all -- in fantasizing about women! She "demands huge amounts of talent to back it up", since there is something to make up for. After all, some fool on the other side of the planet could somehow feel inspired to treat women like shit -- nevermind that such a man probably would have found any reason for that any way. As if people ever needed fine art or games to treat each other far worse a thousand years ago than today. Or as if women don't simply love trends, whose creation are a natural complexity of many states and interests, not least of women.

But hey, with giving the audience the benefit of the doubt on decency, it is I who has a "grim view on social justice" in my "elaborate ideology".

:lol:

So, she "only supports the fact that you can't demand that people don't judge the sexist (or racist, or otherwise oppressive) stuff that you do at face value". Because that's obviously what I demanded, instead of doubting her usage of the word on this pixel art. And her "prejogative to judge those who don't judge her" in engagement (so, you know, those not being sexist/racist) is my "poor form". Oops, I do now judge her in return. I guess that makes me sexist after all. I show my true colors here: I'm a reckless asshole. Or dick. I'm a reckless dick to an open asshole.

:lol:

I could go on and on, it is hilarious to dissect the rhetorical devices and fellacies, but I'm getting laughing cramps, although I have pretty good abs. She's right: it really was "just a joke".

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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:11 am

It's spreading, too. How are these people so horribly deluded?

It's not the being fat that's so bad. It's the ridiculous bullshit they come up with to convince themselves that they have no control over their own weight, then playing the oppression olympics because DISCRIMINATION. "Health at every size", good grief.

It's the waterfall of malformed thoughts that really gets to me. BMI is, indeed, a bad indicator of healthy weight, if you're an adult man with high lean body mass. For all other cases, it works quite fine. 95% of all diets fail! (based on a study of 100 participants in 1950, and rendered obsolete due to the massive advances in science and fat oppression). These idiots just cherry-pick results to convince themselves that they're the special snowflakes with a BMI of 50 who don't need triple bypass surgery by the time they're 35, and will live a long and healthy life.

This social justice garbage needs to end.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:38 pm

Since she's been playing that card on me, here a choice quote the other way around this time:
I mean, there's a lot more context to it, and the US as well as other countries have really messed up African politics by meddling with imperialist goals and colonization, why won't we leave Africa alone?"


Get that. She's asking that question with a straight face, on the internet, using a computer, that needed global resources to be built, by people working to conditions horrible enough so she or anyone can even afford any computer at all. And runs it to tell me about how this "sexist" picture of a naked butt has somehow to do with her oh so bad problems of her pampered life, in some grand scheme, while some african kid has to suffer and die, just so she can give me shit online and mock my "elaborate ideology" with which I "condone" her terrible fate as a fat fuck thinking feminism to lift her ass onto moral high ground.

Crazy bitch, move into a cave deep in the wilderness and go hunting for your food. You do that, I might pause my porn for a minute of awe.

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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby Zeuter » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:42 pm

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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:25 pm

Zeuter wrote:
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That girl too needs to go to Africa and give free blowjobs, so she has something reasonable and healthy in her mouth.
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Re: Pixel Joint

Postby RageAgainstVoid » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:00 am

Or when they try to paddle back a bit by saying
he doesn't have to feel "necessarily bad"
necessarily not... too hot.

So better watch it! You're just one shy step away from bad, boy. Cuz there are crazy people out there. They'll objectify your subject as a reduction to moral features.

:lol:

Sad story is, this probably damages that kid for life. Ultimately, there is nothing more fueling to fetishes real life than this more or less subtle shittalk on sexuality naturally artificial.

:lol:

I for one won't tell him how to draw his girls stylistically. But if it was up to me he should do a BDSM caricature in response to their *helpful advice with best intentions*: Little fella, go play doctor on your virtual fuck puppet, her anatomy needs some medical hands-on.

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